THE TWILIGHT ZONE

Well for starters, here's his personal page http://www.linkedin.com/pub/richard-jennings/3/660/766

And from his "my company" link: http://www.momentummh.org/

And from the link "blog" [which I thought would take me right to Sustained Reaction..lol..] http://rjonwine.wordpress.com/

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I believe Jennings is a homosexual. It is important to note due to his venom for Castaneda. I have a theory..



Now we know what happens in a cult atmosphere. Sexuality is everywhere. In fact, often at SR I hear people whine and moan about how Castaneda slept with multiple women. It seems to be a point of contention "they" [advance-search "we"] return to again and again. So often in fact that I began a long time ago to wonder why a bunch of men would bemoan another guy getting lucky with several chicks at the same time. They are either jealous or something else.. After an old man dies, what motivation would there be for a group of men to fiercely sustain how unhappy they were that he got lucky in his elder years? Most heterosexual men I know would celebrate the guy as some sort of icon to manhood...a true player till the end.. But no, not at Jenning's SR. He did found the place after all..

And on that subject we get reminded again and again, periodically, sometimes at odd interjections, that Jennings no longer has a hand in the SR project. Again, a long time ago the "methinks the lady doth protest too much" red flag went up for me. My immediate hunch was that he did in fact and does in fact still have a hand in what goes on there and this regular-insistance is the protocol for him to keep his day job?

The significance of Jennings sexual-orientation is that it may be quite likely he joined up with Castaneda, attempted to seduce him and was given a cold reception. I can tell you from personal experience that gays often try to convert heteros they find an attraction to. Three times I've befriended a woman, had her approach me for sex and politely declined assuring them of my preference, only to find them seething at the rejection instead of just accepting my orientation as they expect me to accept theirs.. One of them even went so far as to make up rumors that I was a thief. She herself stole a saddle of a noted ranch owner, went around telling the horse community that I stole it and basically sabotaged my relationships with dozens of people out of sheer spite for rejecting her sexual advances. Not all, but many gay people I've heard talking or known personally feel a sense of righteousness and arrogance at their orientation [a proper word to describe BTW] When they fail at luring another who does not share that orientation, it's like they feel personally attacked and will even lash out in some cases. Again, I cannot help but wonder if this is what Jennings was/is up to at SR? Or is it this and a combination of something else. After all, that lavish lifestyle or Jennings' must take some serious moolah to sustain.

Jennings currently works for a company that specializes in gently reaquainting the mentally ill with society...when he's not banging one of his buddies and going to wine tasting parties around the world. Most mentally ill people I've come across are that way from poverty, or the outfall of poverty. Not that Jennings shouldn't enjoy the good life, but I can't help but think his high-end lifestyle, while trying to appear hip and in touch [a nauseating feature of denizens of the Gay Area] could stand in direct contrast to those he ostensibly is trying to help. And it would take on a particular tinge if my hunch is correct, that he really is still peripherally or otherwise involved at SR.

A gay snob who daylights as a compassionate being and moonlights as a vindictive cutthroat might be significant...assuming I'm correct..
We all, all of us are familiar with the abusive techniques that go on at Jennings' [formerly or currently] Sustained Reaction. Most particularly glaring is the purposeful misquoting [lying] of other posters words, turned around and rearranged to be used against them in their hallmark "gangup" sessions. If you dare to demonstrate that Carlos Castaneda was not making something up, and you do so in a compelling way, brace yourself. Nothing arouses more abuse there than that. Insults are hurled at first. Then come the misquotings, the accusations that you yourself are a liar [like Castaneda who you're "sticking up for"]. When that fails you are baited again and again to defend your position, sidelined and accused of yourself being the one who derailed a thread's topic. Then when you "persist" [in fending off their abuse] you are banned unceremoniously.

Tsk Tsk, Jennings... You know that abusiveness, gangups, re-arranging reality [misquoting] and banishment are some of the greatest contributors to mental illness there are! I sincerely hope I'm not right about your still being involved at Sustained Reaction?? I'd hate to think you'd contribute to the population of those that darken the doors of your employment by day...Job security? Snob security?...hmmm...

Another point they seem to ram home again and again is the idea that all the witches are dead. You know, the same witches the Will was supposed to favor? Now Jennings is an attorney, so I have to assume he knows about things like statute of limitations and so on. Yet there is that pesky family member of one of the girls who keeps an investigation open about her missing status. Now bear with me here, I'm just musing at this point. But I wonder if this "Sustained Action" that paints CC out as a malicious and abusive cult leader might be the foundation for a legal argument against the CC fortune? I mean, if the true heirs to the fortune are "missing" or dead, and the statute runs out on the investigations of their disappearances, might not Jennings be able to claim a damage case against the late Castaneda's fortune for his mind control of Jennings and subsequent harm he caused him? After all, this seems to be a theme of the place. One by one you hear the account of some innocent volunteer signing up for Castaneda's classes and then being harmed by him in some real and measurable way that they "had no control over" [leaving, like he told them they should do in his books].

"Forget the books! Throw them out!" would be an important hinge for someone trying to claim that they were roped in totally by a hypnotist like Castaneda and led to harm unknowingly. Because in those books he tells them quite plainly that if they signed up to volunteer and cluster around him, harm would come to them. And in hingsight I do remember another repetitive theme there at SR. It's the insistence that Castaneda changed his tune from the books and told people they should follow him instead, told them to forget the books and follow..follow...follow...your eyes are getting heavy... It has to be this way if potential-litigator[s] intend to claim cult-damages. Castaneda had to have "changed everything" from the books. Otherwise his "testimony" [in the books] would make a difficult case for people trying to paint out that they were psychologically roped in and brainwashed when the cult leader himself advertised that doing so was a very very bad idea..

It's an interesting consideration... Pretty much one that seems to fit the goings-on at SR like a glove?

Sil, I don't think it's some big secret Jennings is homosexual, I remember him saying something about it on SR, long ago.

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Yes, I've heard it said in the past as well, but the excerpt from the link sort of solidifies the rumor eh?

It wasn't a rumour, he admitted being gay, he made no secret of it.

And why should he?

Do you remember GugeyeWalker? He used to post on the old NagualNet, and later on he started posting here too. He was still very much into Castaneda, even though he was gay too.

He left for whatever reason (I often assume people leave because of me and my big mouth...like Anand left because of what I said about the Israeli/Palestinian thing).

Some of those CC 'warriors' appear to have very large toes, easy to step on.

Well, I have big feet, so better watch out (but you knew that already, heh).

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And about the 'witches' being dead... It was expected of them to do so, sort of.

They dissappeared, and so the most obvious conclusion would be that they indeed had killed themselves. I can imagine a fuck up like Patty Partin committing suicide, but not a Florinda Donner, she just doesn't appear to me the kind of type to kill herself. She was too clever, too strong, too much in control of herself. And that is what I get from people who posted on SR and met her (the sunday classes).

Nah, the more I thought about it, the more I feel they just went into hiding, took on new indentities, and continued with their lives.

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I tend to agree. The "expected too" part not so much. They were big girls who could read about personal responsibility and CC taking prisoners... I wonder if a legal whiz here could tell us how long a Will's beneficiaries could remain at large before the Will goes into a public ownership/default/limbo/??? I'm not up on probate stuff. I'll bet Jennings knows though..

Odd that he would then create a website dedicated to defaming someone?

I just want to understand why he shelves his verve for anti-defamation for Castaneda? He is like the hypocrite closet-gay politician that denounces homosexuals by day and then hires them to service him by night. He is a closet-defamer!

Jesus, that's the same theory as Sid's:
Castaneda rejected Corey's sexual advances,
so Corey created SR to get back at him.

Complete horseshit.

Corey wanted to put out the Truth about Castaneda;
the good, the bad and the ugly.
NOT because he had been spurned,
but because he had been brainwashed by a cult headed by Castaneda.

Corey allowed ALL points of view, much more so than Ghost Dog or Wu.
He did allow TBs to be harassed,
but he also allowed debunkers to be harassed.

Corey was still interested in the metaphysical.
Corey allowed a forum for Dreaming, a forum for Magick,
and a forum for Entheogens.
(Ghost Dog deleted all 3 forums).

If the SR Legacy seems dark,
it's because the Cleargreen Legacy of Castaneda is dark.


[btw, your generic profiling of homosexuals is unbalanced and revolting]

Heh, I am glad you showed up inthis thread, Shawn.

I have the same impression as you do. Corey allowed for many topics; I remember a thread about the Enneagram, and he tried to make me fit in into that system by analyzing the things I had said about myself. It was fun.

He also allowed for a bit 'heated' discussions.

I think Wu was one of the worst choices as owner of the site, and Tom second to worst, lol.

But the time I spend on SR when Corey was still the owner of SR was an ok time.

Gay or not gay, who gives a flying fuck, right? Jeesh.

LOL, and I remember Sid(arthur) also had a thing against gay people, but one of his 'heroes' was Alexander the Great, hahaha !!

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Refer back to my opening post why gay matters. If this was a hetero man, we wouldn't be introducing the scored-lover theory again.
I object to Jennings' profiling of Castaneda and anyone who practices nagualism as a liar. Just because a person has gay sex does not automatically make them a benevolent, infallible saint. People who have gay sex are just like heteros in that they fall prey to every sort of personality aberration there is. Your lack, Shawn, of a sober view of gay people as regular people prone and blessed with all those attributes shows your judgement to be skewed.


Sayz you!..lol...

In any event, the red flags I mentioned above have not gone away. And I'm leaning towards, spurned lover or at least denounced homosexual anger of Jennings towards CC. But the main theory is that he might be using SR and "the new people there" as well as his old claims as a basis for a lawsuit against Castaneda's estate. I'll call my theory the "poor me" lawsuit or the "I cannot read" lawsuit.

Think about it. In order for him to collect against Castaneda [of whom his claims are against], the witches [the rightful owners of the Estate] had to disappear and CC had to be an evil hypnotist cult leader who abused Jennings and others.

I'm just saying..

I'm sure Jennings knows, but does anyone else here know how much the Estate is worth? It must be a pretty chunk of change. I read somewhere in an article online recently that CC's books are still selling an amazing amount for being this long past publishing. Those monies are going somewhere, and accumulating quite nicely I'd imagine.. Well Richard J.? You were an attorney for Castaneda prior to his death. How many clams are we talking about? Real property? Stock?

And the hypocrisy of his being the leader of an anti-defamation celebrity group, while simultaneously creating a website dedicated soley to defaming Castaneda [a celebrity] is just too glaring to pass up. Shawn, try to look past your worship of his gayness and speak to this personality defect. What do you think? How do you bridge that gap in "moral fiber"?

Plus, the guy works for a business that ostensibly gently reintroduces mentally ill people back to society. This is the co-theme of SR also. And yet SR, a site still googlable as "founded by Richard Jennings" is one of the most abusive sites there is. I mentioned this before. The Sustained Reaction "group" [advance-search "we"] resorts to bullying, isolating, reality bending, badgering, misleading, ad hominems and finally banishment as its "treatment du jour" for any person who visits and is exploring nagualism. Those same treatments are the seeds of the weed that grows in the mind of each and every single mental patient that he visits by day. And this guy is charged with their care?

That's why I'm talking about Jennings' dark legacy. This is a dark legacy folks. You don't claim to be benevolent by day and then turn around and abuse the shit out of people by night. I am hardy, but I've seen some very rough treatment at Jennings' SR that has driven out people like Charlila, whose daughter died and others who seemed touched and sensitive, run out on a rail by yet another group they thought [by the title and stated purpose of SR's discussion board] that they found a haven for support, and instead stumbled into a rattlesnake den of fuming venomous hatred for anything and anyone supporting Castaneda.

I also find it curious that Jennings started Sustained Action immediately after Castaneda died in 1998. Runs in my mind the statute of limitations is 7 years? In 2005 or thereabouts I remember some talk about shutting down SR as it had "served its purpose". Not sure what that was about? Wasn't it around 2005 when Ghost Dog left? Then there was a somber announcement about some family member keeping the case open on one of the missing witches...and around the same time the decision to keep SR running.. Abe, you're good at getting backdoor info out of SR. Try finding any posts related to that family member's ongoing zeal for finding the woman. I'd like to read them again.

Funny you bring that up... a few days ago I Googled Amalia Marquez, the sister of Luis Marquez ("Mankenke"); her Cleargreen name was Talia Bey. Julia nd I talked about it in the shoutbox yesterday.

But what I didn't bring up is that I found some (old??) infomation that tells she is still alive

Give me a minute, and I hope I can find it again.

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So, basically, you simply dismissed everything I just said.
You disrespected everything I said, even though I was there, and you weren't.

Once more,
SR was NOT a website dedicated soley to defaming Castaneda.
When you say that, you are wrong. You are incorrect.
You are spreading misinformation.

Your theories are wrong.

I'm saying that I was around SR many years before you.
I had personal communication with Corey, the person.
I am not "worshipping" gayness or anything else.

I'm saying that you are unbalanced when it comes to gays.
"... when he's not banging one of his buddies.."
"... denounced homosexual anger.."

Every time you mention gays, it's in a derogatory vein.

I'm saying that Corey is no longer involved with SR.

I doubt if anyone could win a lawsuit such as the one you propose.

And no, Corey wasn't Castaneda's attorney prior to his death.
Deborah Drooz was Castaneda's attorney prior to his death.

You'll probably dismiss everything I said.
You only hear what you want to hear.
That is Your personality defect.

I have to go to work.

If she is alive now, she must be 55 years old
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalia_Marquez



Amalia M Marquez
(Age 55)
Associated Names:
Amalia Maraquez
Amalia M Marin

Los Angeles, CA
Palm Springs, CA
Riverside, CA
Gray, TN
Coconut Grove, FL

She is no 4 on this webpage:

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/sea ... S&state=CA

This info suggests she is still alive... I mean, it's now 12 years ago she disappeared.. would her name and address still be on the internet??

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A long time ago Mankenke posted about his sister here on TTZ :

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18

Here a page on Sustained Action:

http://sustainedaction.org/Images_Photo ... _photo.htm

Here on an old site of missing persons (old, because her age is given as 42):

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/m ... malia.html

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Good work Abe! She probably is alive at that. Cleargreen insists the witches are alive and still kicking.

Shawn, I find it really hard to take gay-worshipping people seriously when they are trying to debate a topic that involves someone who is gay. It's as biased as a homophobe's perspective. Plus, you are patently wrong on Jennings being an attorney for Castaneda. You say you knew/know Jennings personally and yet you didn't know about this interview [below]? I googled an article that said Jennings was an attorney for Castaneda. Here:


You know, 1998, the year his Will was made and the year he died and the witches disappeared.

Some other fun tidbits...



From Jennings himself..harvested from a 2000 post and re-posted by "Sustained Reaction" on 9-24-01
lol..Shawn you and Jennings have the same expression of dismay, "horseshit"..

And just following this post above were two more posts...


And from ostensibly "another" unidentified poster

OK so we know Jennings is a gay lawyer and was 'deeply' involved with Castaneda from 1995-1998 when Castaneda died and the witches disappeared. What I'd like to know is how deeply involved he was, in what ways and why he carried the defamation torch over to Sustained Reaction?

SR exists to only publicly display cases of people "roped in" to Castaneda and experiencing bizarre or harmful effects. That's why people like Sid and the Tenant and FC and the other looney tunes people were allowed to stay on, argue on behalf of Castaneda, and "display the obvious harmful effects of Castaneda's influence" in their mannerisms.. while other posters who made sober points and seemed balanced who support Castaneda were and are systematically driven out.

If you think about SR soley through the lens of "prelude to a pyschological-damage cult lawsuit", it all fits perfectly. It's why people like Abe and I were and are driven out...we make sense...we remain relatively calm amidst the storm of harassment and have reasonable points that are difficult to refute in support of some of Castaneda's poinst.

Abe is a particular thorn in "their" butt since he hosts a website that actually carries on lucid real sceptical consideration of Castaneda and even dares to post articles that pose opposing positions to the lawsuit-in-the-making SR and Richard DeMille's diatribes.

"They" don't like me because I keep giving counterexamples to their material that "Castaneda made it all up". "They" also don't like me because I keep bringing up the books where CC told them he took prisoners of anyone who CLUSTERED AROUND HIM.....and that volunteers AREN'T WELCOME in the world of sorcery. Then they signed up [volunteered] for Sunday classes and workshops, to CLUSTER AROUND HIM and then wondered why he took them prisoner???..

Now they want money for literally not being able to read. Hence the "poor me" lawsuit or the "cannot read" lawsuit..lol..